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simosa



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PostSubject: I won with worst hand??   Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:11 am

Game # 1674142613 - Telesina Pot Limit EUR 0.05 - Table "Debra Marcos"

Players(max 6):
papillon64 (EUR 16.48 in seat 1)
SBULLA84 (EUR 4.85 in seat 3)
hero (EUR 19.97 in seat 4)


SBULLA84 Ante (0.05)
hero Ante (0.05)

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h

hero Bring-In (0.10)
SBULLA84 Call (0.10)

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d - 9d
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h - Ad

hero Bet (0.30)
SBULLA84 Call (0.30)

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d - 9d - Ah
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h - Ad - Qc

SBULLA84 Check
hero Check

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d - 9d - Ah - Kc
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h - Ad - Qc - Kh

SBULLA84 Check
hero Check

Vela 8c

hero Check
SBULLA84 Check

hero shows: 9h - 8h - Ad - Qc - Kh (a pair of Eights)
SBULLA84 shows: 7s - 8d - 9d - Ah - Kc (a pair of Eights)

hero wins: EUR 0.86 (with a pair of Eights)
Rake: EUR 0.04

Game ended 2010-04-16 23:57:32 EEST


We both have a pair of 8s, I have Ad and opponent Ah, so why did I win that hand???
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PostSubject: Re: I won with worst hand??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:37 am

simosa wrote:
Game # 1674142613 - Telesina Pot Limit EUR 0.05 - Table "Debra Marcos"

Players(max 6):
papillon64 (EUR 16.48 in seat 1)
SBULLA84 (EUR 4.85 in seat 3)
hero (EUR 19.97 in seat 4)


SBULLA84 Ante (0.05)
hero Ante (0.05)

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h

hero Bring-In (0.10)
SBULLA84 Call (0.10)

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d - 9d
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h - Ad

hero Bet (0.30)
SBULLA84 Call (0.30)

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d - 9d - Ah
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h - Ad - Qc

SBULLA84 Check
hero Check

SBULLA84 was dealt: ?? - 8d - 9d - Ah - Kc
hero was dealt: 9h - 8h - Ad - Qc - Kh

SBULLA84 Check
hero Check

Vela 8c

hero Check
SBULLA84 Check

hero shows: 9h - 8h - Ad - Qc - Kh (a pair of Eights)
SBULLA84 shows: 7s - 8d - 9d - Ah - Kc (a pair of Eights)

hero wins: EUR 0.86 (with a pair of Eights)
Rake: EUR 0.04

Game ended 2010-04-16 23:57:32 EEST


We both have a pair of 8s, I have Ad and opponent Ah, so why did I win that hand???

u got 88AKQ, opponent got 88AK9, so u got better last ass kicker Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I won with worst hand??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:58 am

I thought only highest kicker is counted, and at least telesina odds calculator thinks also that way.

http://odds.sama.asia/telesina?h1=Ad+Ks+Qs+9h+9s&h2=Ah+Kd+Jh+9d+9c&h3=&h4=&h5=&h6=&dead=

99 AhKJ is better than 99 AKQ

http://www.reviewed-online-poker.com/telesina-hand-ranking.php
Also this site says that only top kicker counts, if both have same top kicker, then kickers colour determines winner.
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PostSubject: Re: I won with worst hand??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:24 am

simosa wrote:
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99 AhKJ is better than 99 AKQ

Also this site says that only top kicker counts, if both have same top kicker, then kickers colour determines winner.

no, when both haves same hand example 99KJQ and 99KJQ, then kickers suit says, but if you have 99AKJ and opponent haves 99AQJ, then kicker says.
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PostSubject: Re: I won with worst hand??   Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:19 am

Hi,

Telesina kicker rules are a bit confusing. -P@ISTI- is right about how it works at B2B (or whatever the poker network is called).

I changed the calculator to work the same as B2B. Earlier it worked as described in the link simosa gave.

At B2B:

Quote :

If two players have the same kind of pair, their remaining three cards are significant and the player with the highest side card (kicker) wins. If the highest cards of both players are equal the second highest card wins and so on. If all three cards are equal the suit of the highest kicker decides the winner.

The updated calculator now knows also this important rule:

Quote :
There is one special rule: if it’s only two players left in the pot the highest Straight Flush (A, K, Q, J, T in Hearts) is beaten by the lowest Straight Flush (T, 9, 8, 7, A in Spades).

PS. I don't guarantee the calculator is correct and i don't take responsibility for possible financial loss. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I won with worst hand??   Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:38 am

antti wrote:
Hi,

Telesina kicker rules are a bit confusing. -P@ISTI- is right about how it works at B2B (or whatever the poker network is called).

I changed the calculator to work the same as B2B. Earlier it worked as described in the link simosa gave.

At B2B:

Quote :

If two players have the same kind of pair, their remaining three cards are significant and the player with the highest side card (kicker) wins. If the highest cards of both players are equal the second highest card wins and so on. If all three cards are equal the suit of the highest kicker decides the winner.

The updated calculator now knows also this important rule:

Quote :
There is one special rule: if it’s only two players left in the pot the highest Straight Flush (A, K, Q, J, T in Hearts) is beaten by the lowest Straight Flush (T, 9, 8, 7, A in Spades).

PS. I don't guarantee the calculator is correct and i don't take responsibility for possible financial loss. Smile

ok, ty very much Smile
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